Comments on: History Maker http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:13:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Josh Cook http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2345 Josh Cook Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:19:31 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2345 Adam, Just read about the new gig on Marko's blog. Congrats! This is clearly a smart move for YS, and I hope you really enjoy it in San Diego. Adam,

Just read about the new gig on Marko’s blog. Congrats! This is clearly a smart move for YS, and I hope you really enjoy it in San Diego.

]]> By: Joe Caruso http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2344 Joe Caruso Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:09:17 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2344 Yes, these are complicated issues. I don't base my vote on single issues either. I feel the country is headed for some dark times. I hope I'm wrong. We have a delusion of choices on who to vote for. Remember, it's not just the President, it's also who he/she appoints as judges that I'm concerned about. Legislating from the bench is not what this country is about. I don't like when activists accuse people who are pro-family, religious homophobic. I'm certainly not afraid of Gay people. However, when it comes to Christian values, I have a problem with that. Obama attacked people with Christian values, people who follow Scripture.http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200805/CUL20080529a.html Will they be forcing their perversion on Churches who want to stick to Scripture. What about the wedding industry as a whole. A Christian who owns a catering hall, or a photographer who doesn't want to do these ceremonies. Anyway, I enjoyed the chat.... Yes, these are complicated issues. I don’t base my vote on single issues either. I feel the country is headed for some dark times. I hope I’m wrong. We have a delusion of choices on who to vote for. Remember, it’s not just the President, it’s also who he/she appoints as judges that I’m concerned about. Legislating from the bench is not what this country is about.

I don’t like when activists accuse people who are pro-family, religious homophobic. I’m certainly not afraid of Gay people. However, when it comes to Christian values, I have a problem with that. Obama attacked people with Christian values, people who follow Scripture.http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200805/CUL20080529a.html Will they be forcing their perversion on Churches who want to stick to Scripture. What about the wedding industry as a whole. A Christian who owns a catering hall, or a photographer who doesn’t want to do these ceremonies. Anyway, I enjoyed the chat….

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2338 adam mclane Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:25:33 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2338 @joe - I think both a very complicated issues in the pluralistic society we live in. The easy answer for Christians. But I would never base my vote (again) on single issues. If GW Bush, the most pro-choice president of my lifetime couldn't do anything... what makes you think any president can? Along the same lines... if there is some kind of Christian litmus test, who you going to vote for as ALL 3 candidates are pro-choice. Tough year for the one issue voter. ;)

@joe - I think both a very complicated issues in the pluralistic society we live in. The easy answer for Christians. But I would never base my vote (again) on single issues. If GW Bush, the most pro-choice president of my lifetime couldn’t do anything… what makes you think any president can?

Along the same lines… if there is some kind of Christian litmus test, who you going to vote for as ALL 3 candidates are pro-choice. Tough year for the one issue voter. ;)

]]> By: Joe Caruso http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2337 Joe Caruso Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:20:09 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2337 Adam, Where did I say you were voting for him? I did write that your post was about politics, and has a pseudo-cryptic message in it. I don't need you to tell me who you're voting for, but I would like to know how you stand on the issues such as pro-choice and homosexual marriage? Adam,

Where did I say you were voting for him? I did write that your post was about politics, and has a pseudo-cryptic message in it. I don’t need you to tell me who you’re voting for, but I would like to know how you stand on the issues such as pro-choice and homosexual marriage?

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2334 adam mclane Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:02:24 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2334 Joe, not sure where I said I was voting for him... where do you see that? In fact, here's a post saying the opposite. http://adammclane.com/2008/02/23/i-wont-be-endorsing-a-candidate/

Joe, not sure where I said I was voting for him… where do you see that? In fact, here’s a post saying the opposite. http://adammclane.com/2008/02/23/i-wont-be-endorsing-a-candidate/

]]> By: Joe Caruso http://adammclane.com/2008/06/04/history-maker/#comment-2333 Joe Caruso Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:56:05 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=2405#comment-2333 Hi Adam, You wrote that this post isn't about politics, but it most certainly is. If it's who we are in Christ, then we should not follow hypocrites. Obama sat in a Church that doesn't resemble any Christian church that I know of. He has made statements that praised Jeremiah Wright. He criticized Black Churches that are too traditional in their interpretations of Scripture. Obama is pro-choice. As a Pastor, are you OK with that? What about homosexual marriage? As a Pastor, are you OK with that? Voting for a man just because of his color is just as bad as not voting for someone because of their color. A pseudo-cryptic message that Jesus wants us to vote for Obama is a bit scary. Change without direction is dangerous. Obama is basically a Marxist. What is he offering America? Grace & Truth, Joe Caruso Hi Adam,

You wrote that this post isn’t about politics, but it most certainly is. If it’s who we are in Christ, then we should not follow hypocrites. Obama sat in a Church that doesn’t resemble any Christian church that I know of. He has made statements that praised Jeremiah Wright. He criticized Black Churches that are too traditional in their interpretations of Scripture.

Obama is pro-choice. As a Pastor, are you OK with that? What about homosexual marriage? As a Pastor, are you OK with that? Voting for a man just because of his color is just as bad as not voting for someone because of their color.

A pseudo-cryptic message that Jesus wants us to vote for Obama is a bit scary. Change without direction is dangerous. Obama is basically a Marxist. What is he offering America?

Grace & Truth,

Joe Caruso

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