Comments on: How Should Church Staff Be Treated?

By: kolby milton

kolby milton — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:55:00 +0000

Preach it adam! This is the problem with Church leadership in a postmodern culture. The church usually is the last place to change when it comes to understanding what younger leaders want in a employer.

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By: Ashley

Ashley — Fri, 13 May 2011 20:28:15 +0000

This is a very good article. Having worked at churches, I know that not all churches treat their employees the way they should be treated. A lot of sacrifice is expected from the employees and employees are not really valued. Getting church membership numbers up in various departments is more important than establishing good relationships with the employees and treating them how the bible tells us to treat one another. This is wrong on so many levels. Many Pastors don’t even have a relationship with their employees. Often time the middle man or person in charge of the employees are not even people oriented persons at all. They are number crunchers and pencil pushers who could care less about firing people and often fire people carelessly.

Pastors and churches who treat their employees well will prosper. For those Pastors and churches who don’t, God is going to get them.

By: Gman

Gman — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:29:43 +0000

Ah, too bad the Greatest Commandment wasn’t allowed, right? Treat others like you would want to be treated. Personally, if a staff member came to me or didn’t seem to be the right fit I’d either ask them what’s wrong, help them fit in or give them time to find another position …not Right away say the ole “You’re Fired” gimmick of TV. Though I don’t think that is what Perry was saying after viewing the responses and clarification in later posts on Tony’s blog.

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By: milepost13

milepost13 — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:04:04 +0000

nope…meant to comment to you on your blog.

By: adam mclane

adam mclane — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:51:09 +0000

Nate- I guess I really don’t get what your point is with this post. Did you mean to comment this over at Tony Morgan’s blog?

This post isn’t about NewSpring, it’s about how the church will be expected to treat staff in the future.

By: milepost13

milepost13 — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:56:52 +0000

“Having been around my fair share of “big churches” I think they have a responsibility to be perfectly clear. My point on that post was merely to ask for clarification to the point that a SP reading that post could know EXACTLY what was being said and what wasn’t being said.”

But, what isn’t perfectly clear to one person IS perfectly clear to another. I understand exactly what Tony is saying (at least, I think I do, because I couldn’t agree more with what I understand).

Big churches do have a responsibility to be clear in what they communicate with the public. But, they don’t have a responsibility to confirm that everyone will understand before they communicate something.

Despite that, Tony has, IMO, bent over backwards to answer questions from those who don’t understand, and he has allowed the discussion to carry on (despite the silly comments from all sides).

At some point, the responsibility of understanding the what and why has to fall on the person(s) who are trying to understand. Either figure it out, or walk away and live at peace with the fact that they don’t get it.

Nate

By: Uncle Dave

Uncle Dave — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:48:49 +0000

“I don’t think any church should do anything “because Newspring does.” That’s the definition of idolatry.”

I understand that, but the fact is this. Other churches look up to bigger churches and take a lot of ideas from them. It’s the same as being in leadership. People look up to those in leadership and want to be like them. Same goes for churches, don’t ask me why but they do, so if something is indeed mistranslated that will have an effect on the children so to speak. If things are going to be said they should be said right, because the effects of mistranslation are so great especially when it comes to God and the Bible. Big churches, if they want to be bold, make sure they have every area covered, because if one mistake is made then that carries on down. And i for sure would not want to have that on my shoulders. ??

By: adam mclane

adam mclane — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:33:09 +0000

Joshua- great thoughts, thanks for your time.

Having been around my fair share of “big churches” I think they have a responsibility to be perfectly clear. My point on that post was merely to ask for clarification to the point that a SP reading that post could know EXACTLY what was being said and what wasn’t being said.

I’m glad it’s a fun place to work. I’ve got no beef. I’m a bit in shock at how defensive folks are…