Comments on: Don’t Bail Out US Automakers http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/ Wed, 23 May 2012 16:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Todd Porter http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4312 Todd Porter Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:37:10 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4312 Matt, that is exactly what I mean. Matt, that is exactly what I mean.

]]> By: Matt Cleaver http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4311 Matt Cleaver Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:09:16 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4311 Todd - By "copy their model" do you mean "make cars that aren't horrible"? Because, I don't care what people's model is, if the cars are no good they don't work. I'm surprised they've lasted this long. Adam, in your post you say the "real big 3 of Toyota, Honda, and Ford." Did you really mean Ford? Maybe Volkswagen? Fiat? Nissan/Renault? Todd – By “copy their model” do you mean “make cars that aren’t horrible”? Because, I don’t care what people’s model is, if the cars are no good they don’t work. I’m surprised they’ve lasted this long.

Adam, in your post you say the “real big 3 of Toyota, Honda, and Ford.” Did you really mean Ford? Maybe Volkswagen? Fiat? Nissan/Renault?

]]> By: Todd Porter http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4301 Todd Porter Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:43:20 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4301 It is time that the "Big 3" look at how Toyota and Honda do business and try to copy their model. They are successful and the The "Big 3" are not. As someone whose livelihood is tied pretty closely to the success of the "Big 3" I say don't bail them out also. We have a free market system in this country and if they can't make it then so be it. Besides I dispute their numbers of people and businesses that will go under as a result of their bankruptcy or failure, because the "Big 3" has shipped most of those jobs out the country anyway. But yet they want our country to help them out. Why not start by bringing jobs back to our country and actually becoming an American car company like Toyota and Honda are becoming. And, yes, we need right to work laws in our country and more importantly in my state of Michigan. It is time that the “Big 3″ look at how Toyota and Honda do business and try to copy their model. They are successful and the The “Big 3″ are not.

As someone whose livelihood is tied pretty closely to the success of the “Big 3″ I say don’t bail them out also. We have a free market system in this country and if they can’t make it then so be it. Besides I dispute their numbers of people and businesses that will go under as a result of their bankruptcy or failure, because the “Big 3″ has shipped most of those jobs out the country anyway. But yet they want our country to help them out. Why not start by bringing jobs back to our country and actually becoming an American car company like Toyota and Honda are becoming.

And, yes, we need right to work laws in our country and more importantly in my state of Michigan.

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4296 adam mclane Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:34:53 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4296 Pattigeorge, you've got nothing to stand on. A company so deep in the red that they need to beg for billions of dollars simply cannot justify corporate jets while, your own video portrays, hundreds of thousands of jobs are at stake. As the news report showed your executive could have saved $19,000 by flying commercial. They aren't that important, they are just people. In a few week may be looking for a job like the hundreds of thousands of people put out of work already by mismanagement. Here's a clue: Change the stupid policy! It's emblematic that the people in charge have no idea what they are doing. It's not like it's just me noticing... it was on the nightly news! The American people don't live in Big 3-centric Detroit, don't care about your policies, and shouldn't be asked to pay for private jets. The rest of us aren't falling for it, hopefully our elected officials won't be so stuffed with lobbyists cash as to push this plea through. It's time economics takes over and allows the better companies to survive while the weaker ones to go bankrupt. Pattigeorge, you’ve got nothing to stand on. A company so deep in the red that they need to beg for billions of dollars simply cannot justify corporate jets while, your own video portrays, hundreds of thousands of jobs are at stake.

As the news report showed your executive could have saved $19,000 by flying commercial. They aren’t that important, they are just people. In a few week may be looking for a job like the hundreds of thousands of people put out of work already by mismanagement.

Here’s a clue: Change the stupid policy! It’s emblematic that the people in charge have no idea what they are doing. It’s not like it’s just me noticing… it was on the nightly news!

The American people don’t live in Big 3-centric Detroit, don’t care about your policies, and shouldn’t be asked to pay for private jets. The rest of us aren’t falling for it, hopefully our elected officials won’t be so stuffed with lobbyists cash as to push this plea through.

It’s time economics takes over and allows the better companies to survive while the weaker ones to go bankrupt.

]]> By: pattigeorge http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4295 pattigeorge Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:20:23 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4295 Adam: We do have strict policies governing business travel. We also have a long-standing requirement that certain designated members of our leadership utilize charted flights or leased aircraft for business-related travel to ensure their uninterrupted safety and security. From a practicality standpoint, it’s also far more productive for these executives to utilize non-commercial air travel and makes better fiscal sense for the Company. We don't own a passenger aircraft - leased and chartered aircraft are used when needed. Adam:

We do have strict policies governing business travel. We also have a long-standing requirement that certain designated members of our leadership utilize charted flights or leased aircraft for business-related travel to ensure their uninterrupted safety and security. From a practicality standpoint, it’s also far more productive for these executives to utilize non-commercial air travel and makes better fiscal sense for the Company. We don’t own a passenger aircraft – leased and chartered aircraft are used when needed.

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4293 adam mclane Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:21:57 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4293 Unbelievable! When I wrote that this morning I was half joking. With this story hitting the airwaves tonight, they should just pack it in. The commentator had it exactly right... they just don't get it. Unbelievable! When I wrote that this morning I was half joking. With this story hitting the airwaves tonight, they should just pack it in. The commentator had it exactly right… they just don’t get it.

]]> By: patti http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4292 patti Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:52:14 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4292 pattigeorge - I find your (and the others companies) arguments entirely disingenuous when your execs were too important to set aside their private jets for their begging trip. ( http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6285739&page=1 ) pattigeorge – I find your (and the others companies) arguments entirely disingenuous when your execs were too important to set aside their private jets for their begging trip. ( http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6285739&page=1 )

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4289 adam mclane Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:49:06 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4289 Patti George- I read those pieces, watched the video. While Chrysler may be the smallest seeking a bailout of the 3... bailing them out without fixing the core problems is still is just washing more money down the drain. This is a matter of economics. Tons of supply and no demand for product. You can't blame this on either gas prices or credit shortfalls. There is a systemic issue as mentioned in the post. Patti George- I read those pieces, watched the video. While Chrysler may be the smallest seeking a bailout of the 3… bailing them out without fixing the core problems is still is just washing more money down the drain.

This is a matter of economics. Tons of supply and no demand for product. You can’t blame this on either gas prices or credit shortfalls. There is a systemic issue as mentioned in the post.

]]> By: pattigeorge http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4288 pattigeorge Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:38:49 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4288 Some things to read or watch regarding our request for funds to support our automotive industry: Bob Nardelli’s Senate/House written testimony at http://blog.chryslerllc.com/blog.do?id=537&p=entry Mark Phelan’s article, “6 myths about the Detroit 3,” in the Detroit Free Press at http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008811170379 and a Chrysler video “Straight Talk About Assistance” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPODSNAbkOU Thanks. Patti, Chrysler Some things to read or watch regarding our request for funds to support our automotive industry:

Bob Nardelli’s Senate/House written testimony at http://blog.chryslerllc.com/blog.do?id=537&p=entry

Mark Phelan’s article, “6 myths about the Detroit 3,” in the Detroit Free Press at http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008811170379

and a Chrysler video “Straight Talk About Assistance” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPODSNAbkOU

Thanks. Patti, Chrysler

]]> By: Jonathan Wright http://adammclane.com/2008/11/19/dont-bail-out-us-automakers/#comment-4286 Jonathan Wright Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:16:50 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=3332#comment-4286 I didn't learn anything about how to care for myself financially in college, until my family stopped offering to bail me out. Eventually I learned to stop asking for handouts. I didn’t learn anything about how to care for myself financially in college, until my family stopped offering to bail me out. Eventually I learned to stop asking for handouts.

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