Comments on: Obama at Notre Dame http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/ Wed, 23 May 2012 16:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Joshua Cook http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/#comment-5532 Joshua Cook Mon, 18 May 2009 21:41:19 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=4384#comment-5532 I find myself in the "Option C" camp. I think many of us see the need for unity, compromise, listening and pragmatism in this discussion, I don't think the legal status of abortion is going to change anytime soon (we had 8 years of a evangelical President with no change), so why not jump on board with leaders who (pro-choice or pro-life) who want to reduce the abortion rate? Wouldn't that fulfill Jesus' call to be peacemakers? I find myself in the “Option C” camp. I think many of us see the need for unity, compromise, listening and pragmatism in this discussion,

I don’t think the legal status of abortion is going to change anytime soon (we had 8 years of a evangelical President with no change), so why not jump on board with leaders who (pro-choice or pro-life) who want to reduce the abortion rate? Wouldn’t that fulfill Jesus’ call to be peacemakers?

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/#comment-5531 adam mclane Mon, 18 May 2009 21:24:28 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=4384#comment-5531 Ha! I didn't explain myself very well. (typical!) Option A is Pro-life Option B is Pro-choice Option C seems to protect the right to abortions while making a serious effort to reduce the number of women seeking them through sex education and more positive alternatives like adoption becoming more readily available. IMO- The forms of option A & B haven't worked to significantly do anything but divide people for the last 40 years. From what I can gather, Obama seeks to create that "Option C" dialog so people can get past the "I'm for it, I'm against it" mentality and talk about practical solutions for decreasing the frequency of abortions in our country. The "problem" is that Option A people tend to see the issue as simple when it really isn't. Further, the tendency to try to make it a religious issue really muds the waters of discussion. While it is a religious issue for some Americans, it isn't for others. We live in a pluralistic society... there have to be creative ways to address this than just Option A or Option B. Does that clear it up any more? Or did I make it worse??? Ha! I didn’t explain myself very well. (typical!)

Option A is Pro-life
Option B is Pro-choice
Option C seems to protect the right to abortions while making a serious effort to reduce the number of women seeking them through sex education and more positive alternatives like adoption becoming more readily available.

IMO- The forms of option A & B haven’t worked to significantly do anything but divide people for the last 40 years.

From what I can gather, Obama seeks to create that “Option C” dialog so people can get past the “I’m for it, I’m against it” mentality and talk about practical solutions for decreasing the frequency of abortions in our country.

The “problem” is that Option A people tend to see the issue as simple when it really isn’t. Further, the tendency to try to make it a religious issue really muds the waters of discussion. While it is a religious issue for some Americans, it isn’t for others. We live in a pluralistic society… there have to be creative ways to address this than just Option A or Option B.

Does that clear it up any more? Or did I make it worse???

]]> By: Todd Tolson http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/#comment-5530 Todd Tolson Mon, 18 May 2009 21:17:02 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=4384#comment-5530 If getting an abortion is option A, and not getting an abortion is option B, and educating/rewarding women who were planning on option A, but then decide for option B is option C...why can't option B and C be the same thing? If getting an abortion is option A, and not getting an abortion is option B, and educating/rewarding women who were planning on option A, but then decide for option B is option C…why can’t option B and C be the same thing?

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/#comment-5529 adam mclane Mon, 18 May 2009 17:41:06 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=4384#comment-5529 @todd- as much has I understand Obama's view on abortion, I think I agree with him. I'm pro-life. I would never recommend anyone get an abortion. But I don't see how Obama is approaching it as simple option A vs option B. I really think people who protested him try to boil this complex issue down to just two options... you're either for it or against it. From what I gather... this is something that people often boil down to option A or option B. I really think there is a need for an option C. Option C is making real efforts to limit the amount of abortion via public education, making real efforts to reward women for going with an adoption vs. aborting the child, and making it much easier to adopt. I'd MUCH RATHER see Christians invest serious time in issues of helping women as opposed to just saying "abortion should not be an option." That approach hasn't moved an inch in 40 years of fighting. It's time for a new option... that's why I really like Obama's stance... allow it to stay legal, but work hard on making it unnecessary. @todd- as much has I understand Obama’s view on abortion, I think I agree with him.

I’m pro-life. I would never recommend anyone get an abortion. But I don’t see how Obama is approaching it as simple option A vs option B. I really think people who protested him try to boil this complex issue down to just two options… you’re either for it or against it.

From what I gather… this is something that people often boil down to option A or option B. I really think there is a need for an option C.

Option C is making real efforts to limit the amount of abortion via public education, making real efforts to reward women for going with an adoption vs. aborting the child, and making it much easier to adopt.

I’d MUCH RATHER see Christians invest serious time in issues of helping women as opposed to just saying “abortion should not be an option.” That approach hasn’t moved an inch in 40 years of fighting. It’s time for a new option… that’s why I really like Obama’s stance… allow it to stay legal, but work hard on making it unnecessary.

]]> By: Todd Tolson http://adammclane.com/2009/05/16/obama-at-notre-dame/#comment-5527 Todd Tolson Mon, 18 May 2009 17:16:53 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=4384#comment-5527 fantastic post, Adam! I'm a conservative, but have been extremely frustrated at the needless negativity by those who tend to land on my side of the fence. Do I agree with President Obama's stance on abortion (My Dad accidentally coined a new phrase the other day, and called it O-bortion - LOL)? No! Of course not! Was the protests that ended with almost 40 people being arrested effective, worth-it, or necessary? In my opinion...No. I appreciate the fact that a guy can go to an event and protest and hold up a sign that says "ND has spiritually sold-out". But unfortunately for that guy...he doesn't get taken seriously. I think it's just a waste of time. Anyways, Adam, another great post! Thanks! T fantastic post, Adam! I’m a conservative, but have been extremely frustrated at the needless negativity by those who tend to land on my side of the fence.

Do I agree with President Obama’s stance on abortion (My Dad accidentally coined a new phrase the other day, and called it O-bortion – LOL)? No! Of course not! Was the protests that ended with almost 40 people being arrested effective, worth-it, or necessary? In my opinion…No.

I appreciate the fact that a guy can go to an event and protest and hold up a sign that says “ND has spiritually sold-out”. But unfortunately for that guy…he doesn’t get taken seriously. I think it’s just a waste of time.

Anyways, Adam, another great post! Thanks!

T

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