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	<title>Comments on: Towards Holistic Youth Ministry</title>
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		<title>By: Kathy Bigfoot Pham the First</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Bigfoot Pham the First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inward
Outward (and)
Beyond!

I.O.B.!

Love the blog!</description>
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Outward (and)<br />
Beyond!</p>
<p>I.O.B.!</p>
<p>Love the blog!</p>
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		<title>By: adam mclane</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam mclane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nick- two problems with a house. (not to devalue your statement, our situation is just a little different.) first, we don&#039;t think we&#039;ll be at 8-10 students for long. we&#039;re in an urban setting and we do LOTS in the neighborhood. The 8-10 are students we&#039;ve been in mentoring relationships &quot;accidentally.&quot; With something more intentional we think we&#039;ll outgrow the house within a quarter. second, the goal of this ministry is holistic... a home is limiting to the vision of a place to do homework, get counseling, community outreach center, etc.

We&#039;re pumped. I sent out the notes to the first talk. I love the angle we&#039;re coming at on this whole project. It lines up with my heart and what I&#039;ve expressed here on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nick- two problems with a house. (not to devalue your statement, our situation is just a little different.) first, we don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll be at 8-10 students for long. we&#8217;re in an urban setting and we do LOTS in the neighborhood. The 8-10 are students we&#8217;ve been in mentoring relationships &#8220;accidentally.&#8221; With something more intentional we think we&#8217;ll outgrow the house within a quarter. second, the goal of this ministry is holistic&#8230; a home is limiting to the vision of a place to do homework, get counseling, community outreach center, etc.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re pumped. I sent out the notes to the first talk. I love the angle we&#8217;re coming at on this whole project. It lines up with my heart and what I&#8217;ve expressed here on the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the first quarter, we are meeting in a house. But an early goal is to secure a meeting site somewhere more suitable.&quot;

More suitable? I&#039;d love to meet in a house every week. :) Older kids are more likely to respect the homes; I can see how middle school kids might need &quot;somewhere more suitable.&quot; Are you expecting to just have too many kids for a living room meeting? Just trying to figure out your situation. :)

&quot;Unlike anywhere else I’ve worked with students... getting rides is a big deal.&quot;

Sounds like my town. No one, not even my high schoolers, have licenses. I do a lot of ride-giving myself. Luckily, a good group of kids are close enough they can walk/skate/bike. Some kids come and don&#039;t even tell their parents where they are. Some parents don&#039;t care. But that&#039;s a different issue! :D

&quot;It just seems better to launch with what we have and line-up the rest as we go.&quot;

I agree. As the NLT translation words Eccl. 11:4 &quot;Farmers who wait for perfect weather never plant.&quot; I tell my leaders that doing ministry is like running toward a cliff not 100% sure your hang glider is ready to fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the first quarter, we are meeting in a house. But an early goal is to secure a meeting site somewhere more suitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>More suitable? I&#8217;d love to meet in a house every week. <img src='http://adammclane.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Older kids are more likely to respect the homes; I can see how middle school kids might need &#8220;somewhere more suitable.&#8221; Are you expecting to just have too many kids for a living room meeting? Just trying to figure out your situation. <img src='http://adammclane.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;Unlike anywhere else I’ve worked with students&#8230; getting rides is a big deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like my town. No one, not even my high schoolers, have licenses. I do a lot of ride-giving myself. Luckily, a good group of kids are close enough they can walk/skate/bike. Some kids come and don&#8217;t even tell their parents where they are. Some parents don&#8217;t care. But that&#8217;s a different issue! <img src='http://adammclane.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;It just seems better to launch with what we have and line-up the rest as we go.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. As the NLT translation words Eccl. 11:4 &#8220;Farmers who wait for perfect weather never plant.&#8221; I tell my leaders that doing ministry is like running toward a cliff not 100% sure your hang glider is ready to fly.</p>
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