Comments on: 2 Lies of Church Employment http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/ Wed, 23 May 2012 16:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Church Jobs http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-14357 Church Jobs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:59:00 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-14357 Great article. I agree with everything you read here. I would like to congratulate the writer and encouraged him to continue writing such valuable materials. Good luck for the next. More Details: <a href="http://churchjobs.tv/" rel="nofollow">Church Jobs</a> Great article. I agree with everything you read here. I would like to congratulate the writer and encouraged him to continue writing such valuable materials. Good luck for the next.

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]]> By: Gman http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-10291 Gman Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:54:07 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-10291 Just heard this week of 2 youthworkers with great youth ministry websites and free resources being let go from their churches ...when will the mess end? Just heard this week of 2 youthworkers with great youth ministry websites and free resources being let go from their churches …when will the mess end?

]]> By: Friday Five « NeilTullos.com http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-10284 Friday Five « NeilTullos.com Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:05:35 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-10284 [...] Adam shares 2 interesting posts about church employment: 3 Musketeers of Church Staff & 2 Lies of Church Employment [...] [...] Adam shares 2 interesting posts about church employment: 3 Musketeers of Church Staff & 2 Lies of Church Employment [...]

]]> By: Tiffany Nichols http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-8002 Tiffany Nichols Sun, 09 May 2010 23:01:35 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-8002 I have been the organist at my church for the past six years. I am single and now pregnant. I have been advised by some of the church officials to resign because of my "situation". I feel that the church should be there for me when I am "down and out". Our church is full of alcoholics, drug addicts, adulterers, etc. and I feel that they are not in the position to judge me. I am going to step down quietly but I will not be returning after my baby is born. These are my Christian brothers and sisters who say they love me in Christ. They are all hypocrites. I have been the organist at my church for the past six years. I am single and now pregnant. I have been advised by some of the church officials to resign because of my “situation”. I feel that the church should be there for me when I am “down and out”. Our church is full of alcoholics, drug addicts, adulterers, etc. and I feel that they are not in the position to judge me. I am going to step down quietly but I will not be returning after my baby is born. These are my Christian brothers and sisters who say they love me in Christ. They are all hypocrites.

]]> By: Jonas Knudsen http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-6757 Jonas Knudsen Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:44:11 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-6757 @adam, Thank you and AMEN! @adam, Thank you and AMEN!

]]> By: Steve http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-6747 Steve Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:49:32 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-6747 I love the approach Andy Stanley describes. He wants the church to be the greatest job his staff people have ever had. Like Jesus (and Boaz in the OT), the church should seek to go beyond the requirements of the law and offer grace to it's staff people. Besides, the church staff people I know aren't in it for the $$, they give their lives to the work of Jesus in the church. The least the church could do is honor them in return. I love the approach Andy Stanley describes. He wants the church to be the greatest job his staff people have ever had. Like Jesus (and Boaz in the OT), the church should seek to go beyond the requirements of the law and offer grace to it’s staff people. Besides, the church staff people I know aren’t in it for the $$, they give their lives to the work of Jesus in the church. The least the church could do is honor them in return.

]]> By: julie http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-6742 julie Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:34:29 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-6742 well said, adam. @bradley, there should be no one more interested in justice than a church - including for their employees. well said, adam.

@bradley, there should be no one more interested in justice than a church – including for their employees.

]]> By: Bradley Buhro http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-6737 Bradley Buhro Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:09:41 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-6737 @adam That's precisely what I had in mind when I said Paul was not above appealing to legal authorities. There were some differences though - most notably, the mistreatment he was appealing was suffered not at the hands of the church, but at the hands of the local authorities. So it seems like it's not a hard and fast rule: "Never sue." But it's also not "You ought to sue." It's probably somewhere in a messy middle. Churches need to know they aren't above the law. And ministers need to know they don't have to stoop to resorting to the law. Thanks again! @adam That’s precisely what I had in mind when I said Paul was not above appealing to legal authorities. There were some differences though – most notably, the mistreatment he was appealing was suffered not at the hands of the church, but at the hands of the local authorities.

So it seems like it’s not a hard and fast rule: “Never sue.” But it’s also not “You ought to sue.” It’s probably somewhere in a messy middle. Churches need to know they aren’t above the law. And ministers need to know they don’t have to stoop to resorting to the law.

Thanks again!

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2009/10/05/2-lies-of-church-employment/#comment-6736 adam mclane Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:50:04 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5070#comment-6736 @bradley- I hear you. If it weren't for the fact that there is systemic abuse of that principle than my second point wouldn't be needed. Precisely because churches know they can appeal to the "let's cover this up for the sake of the body of Christ" many lives of people giving their careers to church are being destroyed. I seem to remember Paul appealing to Rome. Is that not true? @bradley- I hear you. If it weren’t for the fact that there is systemic abuse of that principle than my second point wouldn’t be needed. Precisely because churches know they can appeal to the “let’s cover this up for the sake of the body of Christ” many lives of people giving their careers to church are being destroyed.

I seem to remember Paul appealing to Rome. Is that not true?

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