Comments on: 5 Clarifying Questions http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/ Wed, 23 May 2012 16:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Len http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7222 Len Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:31:19 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7222 I'm 5 for 5 baby! Good stuff Adam. I’m 5 for 5 baby! Good stuff Adam.

]]> By: Tim http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7216 Tim Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:33:25 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7216 @Brit: Yeah, everyone's taking a 30% cut. We're a smaller church - 150, so it's me, one Lead Pastor, and a part-time worship leader. Again, all 3 taking the cut. It's not performance based; just tough times for the church, financially. You asked if I'd stay if I took the cut while no one else did. I'd probably argue the logic behind that, but I'd stay. My philosophy is that I'm called to wherever God has called me at a particular time. If I'm fortunate enough to be paid for the ministry, awesome. If not, it doesn't change the fact that I'm called. Make sense? @Brit: Yeah, everyone’s taking a 30% cut. We’re a smaller church – 150, so it’s me, one Lead Pastor, and a part-time worship leader. Again, all 3 taking the cut. It’s not performance based; just tough times for the church, financially. You asked if I’d stay if I took the cut while no one else did. I’d probably argue the logic behind that, but I’d stay. My philosophy is that I’m called to wherever God has called me at a particular time. If I’m fortunate enough to be paid for the ministry, awesome. If not, it doesn’t change the fact that I’m called. Make sense?

]]> By: Daniel Griswold http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7211 Daniel Griswold Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:52:00 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7211 Good list of questions. I'm proud to be a youth minister, and it is a lifelong endeavor that will inevitably morph and grow from being a director of youth, to a director of youth directors (team oriented equipping) and writing someday when I have time to flesh out my outlines. Youth Ministry needs to be a passion, otherwise, you'll burn out real quick. Good list of questions. I’m proud to be a youth minister, and it is a lifelong endeavor that will inevitably morph and grow from being a director of youth, to a director of youth directors (team oriented equipping) and writing someday when I have time to flesh out my outlines. Youth Ministry needs to be a passion, otherwise, you’ll burn out real quick.

]]> By: Brit Windel http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7210 Brit Windel Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:40:55 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7210 wow thats a tough question. I honestly wrestle with that now. My girlfriend helps out with a great ministry in Loveland, and their youth pastor has all the cool gadgets, great budget (which our budget is pretty good, no complaints at all) great leaders and volunteers, and all the kids coming... i get very jealous and awkward when i bring her around our ministry, because its not as well put together and organized as theirs is. Its a huge humbling factor. I wrote on the sin of comparison last year and needing to revisit it. http://ypguybrit.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/sin-of-comparison/ but i think thats where most the problem arises is that we compare our small ministries to these massive ministries. wow thats a tough question. I honestly wrestle with that now. My girlfriend helps out with a great ministry in Loveland, and their youth pastor has all the cool gadgets, great budget (which our budget is pretty good, no complaints at all) great leaders and volunteers, and all the kids coming… i get very jealous and awkward when i bring her around our ministry, because its not as well put together and organized as theirs is. Its a huge humbling factor. I wrote on the sin of comparison last year and needing to revisit it. http://ypguybrit.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/sin-of-comparison/
but i think thats where most the problem arises is that we compare our small ministries to these massive ministries.

]]> By: adam mclane http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7209 adam mclane Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:27:55 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7209 @brit- thanks for the love, brother. I loved getting to know you in ATL. It sounds a little boastful, I suppose, but I think being proud of what you are doing is a big deal. I remember one job I had... my mom knew I hated it because when she visited, I didn't take her to my office. I guess the follow-up question to #2 would be, "are you in a hurry to show off your work to the people close to you?" Very cool thoughts. @brit- thanks for the love, brother. I loved getting to know you in ATL.

It sounds a little boastful, I suppose, but I think being proud of what you are doing is a big deal. I remember one job I had… my mom knew I hated it because when she visited, I didn’t take her to my office. I guess the follow-up question to #2 would be, “are you in a hurry to show off your work to the people close to you?”

Very cool thoughts.

]]> By: Brit Windel http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7208 Brit Windel Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:24:33 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7208 @ Tim: Hey Tim, my question i have for you, spurred from reading your comment. Do you know if the upper leadership is also taking a 30% pay cut? just curious if its a team atmosphere or that there is a pecking order of things that get cut, pastors salary being one of those. So i guess another question would be, would you stay when getting a pay cut if no one else was and the pay cut had nothing to do with performance? @Adam: Great Questions this morning Question 2 for me really jumped out! am i proud of what I am doing? i would say mostly yes. more so now than in previous ministries where it was about getting the numbers to look like we had a legitimate ministry, with all the bells and whistles of an arcade fun house. I would say I'm proud of the stance in ministry i Take towards things in up holding my integrity in all things, am I proud or ok with where things are in my ministry...no but patient to presevere with God's grace in seeing where it all comes out. Love you brother and love your ministry to those in ministry. Blessings @ Tim: Hey Tim, my question i have for you, spurred from reading your comment. Do you know if the upper leadership is also taking a 30% pay cut? just curious if its a team atmosphere or that there is a pecking order of things that get cut, pastors salary being one of those. So i guess another question would be, would you stay when getting a pay cut if no one else was and the pay cut had nothing to do with performance?

@Adam: Great Questions this morning Question 2 for me really jumped out! am i proud of what I am doing? i would say mostly yes. more so now than in previous ministries where it was about getting the numbers to look like we had a legitimate ministry, with all the bells and whistles of an arcade fun house. I would say I’m proud of the stance in ministry i Take towards things in up holding my integrity in all things, am I proud or ok with where things are in my ministry…no but patient to presevere with God’s grace in seeing where it all comes out.

Love you brother and love your ministry to those in ministry. Blessings

]]> By: Tim http://adammclane.com/2009/12/07/5-clarifying-questions/#comment-7207 Tim Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:06:18 +0000 http://adammclane.com/?p=5320#comment-7207 "If they stopped paying me to do what I do...would I still do it?" In a discussion a couple of months ago, a ym buddy of mine (volunteer) asked me this question (I'm full-time paid yp). I really had to take a step back and think about it. I answered in the affirmative. Interestingly, his question proved prophetic. I just found out I'm taking a 30% pay cut. But, it's good to be in the will of God, ministering where you know he's called you, and resting in the peace of knowing he will provide. God is good! “If they stopped paying me to do what I do…would I still do it?”

In a discussion a couple of months ago, a ym buddy of mine (volunteer) asked me this question (I’m full-time paid yp). I really had to take a step back and think about it. I answered in the affirmative. Interestingly, his question proved prophetic. I just found out I’m taking a 30% pay cut. But, it’s good to be in the will of God, ministering where you know he’s called you, and resting in the peace of knowing he will provide. God is good!

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