What Do I Look for in a Pastoral Staff?

pastoral-teamFor a variety of reasons I know a lot of people in church transition. Some were on staff at a church which has let them go for budget reasons and they need a new church home. Others have moved to new states for a job. Still others just can’t stand their current church situation anymore and are looking for a new church home in their town.

So the question presented to me, as a friend is: What do I look for in a church? (We’re talking about believers looking for a new church, not people brand new to the faith.)

I like to immediately rephrase the question to be about the pastoral staff. You simply cannot go visit a church and make a judgment on whether or not you want to be a part of it based on a site visit and observation of programs or even the weekly service. The quality of a church is determined by the quality of leaders. If you want to see the heart of the church and get exposed to what is really going on– you will need to meet senior leaders. If the church is so big that you don’t get to meet the senior leaders if you request a meeting… decide for yourself if that’s the type of church you’re OK with being a part of. Me personally? That tells me everything I need to know. If I can’t get a meeting for a cup of coffee with the pastoral staff they don’t want me to be a part of their church, got it!

Things you are trying to figure out when you meet a pastoral staff member.

1 Timothy 3:1-7 outlines the Biblical qualifications for being a pastor. (overseer) This becomes the basis for my bullet points below.

Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

  • Above reproach- Do the senior leaders have a good reputation? When you talk to other church leaders in the area do they know who they are? Do they show up to local pastor network stuff? Do the people of the church have nice things to say after the first cup of coffee?
  • Husband of one wife- I don’t think this means divorce and I don’t think this is exclusive to men… so it could be “wife of one man” in my eyes. But I do think this means… are these people true to their spouse? Are they working so hard that the church is really their spouse?
  • Temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable– If you want the inside scoop on this talk to the secretaries. They will tell you flat out if the pastoral staff are a bunch of jerks or not. “Does he ever blow a gasket?” If you really want to dig into this, talk to the vendors who service the church. The computer people, the copier salesmen, or even their insurance broker will know if these people just put on a happy face for parishioners but are otherwise jerks.
  • Not a drunk- I’ve actually never met a pastoral team member who was a drunk. I’m sure they are out there. I just wouldn’t worry about this one too much.
  • Gentle- You need to trust your gut on this. This is one of the most important qualities of being a pastor. So even the jerks can “put on gentleness” as a survival skill. But you need to determine if the staff are gentle when it counts or just gentle for the church show. You can test this out by bringing them an absurd idea. If they aren’t jerks when you tell them that you will only go to a church that uses free trade communion wafers… you know they are gentle. 
  • Not quarrelsome, not a lover of money– We’re getting somewhere now! If you talk to your pastor and you sense that they are in the church to build their kingdom instead of the Kingdom of God, walk out of the meeting. Based on my years of experience this is about 1:5 pastors. It’s an American epidemic. Why flee these pastors? They will be a bull in a china shop. They will do whatever it takes to grow/build the church. That’s fun for about 2 months but gets old real fast. In short, those people tend to love a good rumble. But if the church is doing a reluctant building campaign because they have clearly maxed out their current space… this isn’t always a bad thing.
  • A good family- This is tricky as it might take a while to figure out.  You can sniff it out by asking how they manage their time. Every church will say they encourage their staff to put family first. But are they backing that up? Is it OK for a staff member to miss a Sunday for a key sports tournament with their son? Is it OK for a staff member to go home early or go late to get the kids to school? Do they punch a time clock with strict office hours? Does the church limit the number of evenings a staff member can be out working for the church? If you see inconsistencies here you know they aren’t managing their families well. And a church that permits this is not a church you want to be a part of.
  • Not a new believer- It’s all the rage right now to hire new believers as church staff. This is tied to a theory that it’s more important what you do for a church (worship leading, marketing, executive leadership, etc) than that you have a strong theological education. (seminary) Paul was wise to make it a requirement that someone not be a new believer. If you meet the executive pastor and he has an MBA, was converted at the church 3 years ago, and left an accounting firm to be a part of the church, RUN!

If you want me to get even more practical than this, leave me a comment! We’ll start a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down” voting system!


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7 responses to “What Do I Look for in a Pastoral Staff?”

  1. Dave Luke Avatar

    Regarding the Good Family part..
    How far do you go for your family when your a pastor, because surely you can’t give 100% to both?? so which one suffers, God’s ministry or your family? I wanna know peoples thoughts on this!

  2. John Avatar

    Dave, your comment about giving 100% to both family and church assumes that it’s an “either/or” proposition. Instead, it’s a “both/and” one. You have an obligation to both your family and church, and neither one assumes that you will give them 100% of your time. If one of them does place such high demands on your time that your life is out-of-balance you have some things to consider. 1) Is this because that side (church? family?) has an unrealistic expectation of what anyone should be expected to give? If your church has this expectation, you might want to talk to your board or senior pastor about your need for balance. I did this once and the church leaders appreciated my openness and assured me that they would bring their expectations in line with reason. They immediately gave me some time off. 2) Or is it because you feel compelled to prove yourself an exceptional pastor or husband/father? In that case, you might have projected your drivenness upon others. It’s not they who are demanding your time; in reality, it’s you demanding that you give more time. Sounds weird, but a lot of pastors deal with it. Bottom line is, if your family life and ministry are in balance neither will suffer.

  3. Mike Lyons Avatar

    Adam, I love your insight. It also made me feel pretty good about the church I’m in–bonus! I just wanted to throw in my two cents about the “new believer” part.

    The example of the pastor who was converted three years earlier may not be your best work ever. (I mean that in the nicest way possible!) I mean, in three years, the guy with an MBA could have gone back to school and earned an M.Div.! I get the idea, but I think three years could go either way. If he had been converted three years ago and attended church once a week for those three years, then that’s certainly not good enough. However, if he has really thrown himself in fully from the beginning, has felt the call and followed that call, I think he could be a viable candidate for a pastoral position in that amount of time. Further, if he came from a background where he was familiar with theology prior to his conversion, that could also set him ahead. Paul didn’t wait three years before plunging into full-time ministry, did he?

    Two cents. 🙂

  4. Mike Lyons Avatar

    Oh, and in response to David Luke: I agree with John. For me, ministry at the church is directly tied to being a good father. Part of my motivation in my work is to help to create the church environment where my daughter can grow and develop as a person. I work with teenagers, and my daughter is six. For her, teenagers are people she looks up to. When I invest my time in them, I am investing in giving her more positive role models. When I work on youth ministry, I am working in part to create a ministry that she will want to be a part of when she is old enough to be in that group. As a whole, I believe in the concept of the “church family.” When I invest in part of my family, that investment is really an investment in my entire family.

  5. Tim Young Avatar

    Adam, I really enjoyed your summary of Paul’s instruction. The only statement in your post that I don’t think is always true is the following:

    “If you want to see the heart of the church and get exposed to what is really going on– you will need to meet senior leaders.”

    I see what you are getting at, but I think this depends a lot on how long the leaders have been at the church. Chances are, if a pastor has only been at a church for a short amount of time, he hasn’t really had the opportunity to put his “stamp” on things yet.

  6. adam mclane Avatar

    @mike- The difference between Paul and the type of people stepping into pastoral leadership is clear. Paul trained his whole life to be a religious leader. He knew Scripture and he wanted to know God. So while he was new to Christ he had that going for him… plus, he was an Apostle and not a pastor. He was an eyewitness to the risen Christ! Not exactly a mid-level CPA who decided he wanted to work in a church so they slapped him with a pastor title even without any education or experience. I’m not saying that its bad that churches have hired business managers and you should automatically flee them… but you should expect that they will make immature decisions.

    @tim- I am good at make generalizations, right? If you correct, if a pastor is new or it’s a plant. You, as a believer, just have to walk into those situations knowing its a turkey shoot. If he/she is in year 1-2 of a turnaround situation… just know it’s going to be 50/50 that they will be there past year 5. Once that initial honeymoon ends for a pastoral team it can get ugly or awesome in a heartbeat!

  7. Dave Luke Avatar

    I have been looking into it since and I do agree with your statements, I was just thinking about excellence and giving our passion the most we can, and I realise now that by giving our family the passion, then we are feeding God’s ministry, the more we feed the more it reflects. It is possible in that way to give 100% in both, because when it comes to it, the supernatural destroys the limit of 100% total and allows for it.
    Thanks for your responses guys!

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